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Surinder Singh Ireland

What is ‘Surinder Singh Ireland’?

Surinder Singh Ireland is the process of an EEA National moving to Ireland with their family member before moving back to their country of nationality.

Let me put Surinder Singh Ireland into the context of a British man with an Indonesian wife. If the British man cannot sponsor the Indonesian woman to the UK under the UK Immigration Rules, then they may well decide to Surinder Singh in Ireland. There may be many reasons that Surinder Singh in Ireland is decided upon. Such as lack of financials, negative immigration history, or simply that you don’t wish for your family to be divided. Family division is a common threat under the current UK Immigration Rules. This is due to the fact that the applicant’s sponsor is required to show that he earns over £18,600 by way of at least six pay slips.

Another reason for using Surinder Singh Ireland is that there is effectively a blanket ban on older relatives being sponsored by their children.

How Do I begin Surinder Singh Ireland Route?

I’ve compiled a detailed list, with specific processes for completing Surinder Singh Ireland.  You can access this on the Ireland Surinder Singh page.

So, as above, I will put the Surinder Singh Ireland Route into the context of a British Man with an Indonesian wife.

The Indonesian wife will need an entry visa to Ireland. This is known as a Join EU Spouse Visa. You apply for the Join EU Spouse visa via the Ireland AVATS system. You’ll be required to send some obligatory evidence. The Irish government may well request a lot of irrelevant information. It is your own decision as to whether to supply this additional information. Failure to supply the information MAY lead to a refusal which would need appealing.

Once you have the Join EU Spouse Visa, both the British man and Indonesian woman would be required to travel to Ireland. Surinder Singh Ireland requires that both the British and Indonesian citizens are resident together in Ireland.

OK, So I’m in Ireland – What next?

So. You’re now in Ireland for Surinder Singh Ireland. What next? The next step would obviously be that you need accommodation. You can find accommodation in a variety of places. From websites (such as myhome.ie) to the local paper. Many people short accommodation before arriving for Surinder Singh Ireland. Some simply initially stay in an hotel and find accommodation once there. I personally found the latter to be more effective.
Once you are resident – and residency includes in a hotel – you can apply for a PPS number. It is also wise to know whether you intend to Work or be Self Employed.

With proof of address, and ID, you can then approach a bank for a bank account. If you’ve got your own house, it’s wise to ensure all bills are in your own names also.

Surinder Singh Ireland Residence Card

Once you’re working, and have a stable address it is at this point you’d apply for the residence card on Form EU1.

During the process of Surinder Singh Ireland, it is quite possible that the non EU will have no formal leave to remain stamped in their passport.  DO NOT WORRY. As long as the non-EU has applied for a residence card within three months, their residency is legal. Note: The EEA National also needs to be a qualified person.  A qualified person includes a self sufficient person, worker, and student.

Ireland will usually issue a temporary residence card (an GNIB Card) with a stamp (A Stamp 4) into the passport of the non-EEA national. This stamp will usually be for six months and will be used whilst the application is being processed.

Surinder Singh Ireland varies throughout Ireland. Different areas of Ireland have different immigration offices. Each immigration office appears to have it’s own processes. Some Immigration Offices allow you to turn up and get a six month stamp in your passport. Some don’t. Some require a long wait. whilst the card is sent off to INIS in Dublin.

So How long does Surinder Singh Ireland take?

There is no real fixed time limits on Surinder Singh Ireland. The only formal limit imposed was by the case of O v Netherlands (C-456/12). This case has stated that you must have Article 7 residence. Article 7 residence is residence exceeding three months. Therefore. Three months and a day is now considered the minimum.

OK, So I’ve done Surinder Singh Ireland Route

So. Once you’ve lived in Ireland and acquired Article 7 residence, then you should apply for an EEA Family Permit. The EEA Family Permit is otherwise known as a Surinder Singh Visa.

Where are popular Surinder Singh Ireland areas

Surinder Singh Ireland is popular in itself. However some areas are even more popular.

Surinder Singh Dublin is a popular area.  This is perhaps due to the transport links back to the UK. Surinder Singh Ireland encompasses Surinder Singh Raheny, Surinder Singh Mallahide, and many other local Dublin Surinder Singh areas.  Additionally Surinder Singh Cork, Surinder Singh Waterford, Surinder Singh Wexford are also very popular areas for Surinder Singh Ireland.

Sample Letter to Register for a GP / Doctor in Ireland

Nobody plans to get ill, sick, or injured.  What if it happens though?  You’d like to know that your doctor has your history and that they can access it without any problems.  In addition to helping show that your Centre of Life has moved to the Host Member State you might want to register with a doctor.

To register with a doctor in Ireland, you will need to send them the following information:

  • Full Name
  • Sex
  • Date of Birth
  • Full Residential Address
  • Contact Details
  • Next of Kin
  • PPSN Number

A sample letter for such is attched below:

 

[ Name ]
[ Address]
[ Date ]

[ Address of GP ]

Dear Sir(s) / [ Name of Doctor ],

Patient Registration

I am writing today to register myself [ EU Name ] and family for services at your practice.  You can contact us via the following methods:

  • Telephone: 0999999999
  • Email: [ EU Email ]
  • Post: [ Residential Address ]

I would like to register the following people at your surgery for medical care:

  • Myself, [ EU Name ], [ Sex ], DOB: [ Date of Birth ], PPSN: [ PPSN Number ]
  • My Spouse and Next of Kin: [ Non-EU Name ], [ Sex ], DOB: [ Date of Birth ], PPSN: [ PPSN Number ]
  • [ And and children: ]
    • Our [ Son / Daughter ]: [ Name ], [ Sex ], DOB: [ …. ], PPSN: [ … ]

I would appreciate confirmation of our registration, either by post or email.  Should any further details be required please contact us using the details above.

Yours,

[ EU Sign (if written) ]
[ EU Name ]

EU1 Application – Self Employed Sample Support Letter of Support

Below is a sample letter that you can send in support of your Form EU1 Application in the Republic of Ireland.

Sample EU1 Application Letter of Support

[ EU NAME ]

[ Home Address ]
[ DATE ]
EU Treaty Rights Section

Irish Nationalisation and Immigration Service

Department of Justice and Equality

13/14 Burgh Quay

Dublin 2

 

Dear Sir(s)

EU1 Application – Letter of Support

Please find attached the Form EU1 application and a number of supporting documents for my spouse ([ NON-EEA NAME ])’s residence card on the basis of being married to a self employed EEA National within your state, in accordance with Article 10 of Directive 2004/38/EC.

 

My spouse entered Ireland with myself on the [ DATE ] via [ METHOD OF ENTRY ]. We reported to the Intreo Centre immediately to acquire her PPS Number.

 

In accordance with Article 6 of the Directive we understand that we do not need to register for a residence card until three months are over. However, we are applying early as we intend to make our home in Ireland. My spouse would also like to work and therefore a residence card will benefit us.

 

I regularly travel for work, so would request that our documents are returned as soon as possible. I am able to collect them from the INIS office should this be possible (My email is [ EU National’s Email Address ] and telephone number is [ EU National’s Telephone Number ]) – As a self employed individual I require my ID to travel throughout Europe (The UK do not issue national ID cards).

 

I am a self employed [ job title ]. I am registered for taxation with Revenue under the code [ REGISTRATION NUMBER – Usually PPSN ] and also have a registered business.

 

As evidence of my business activities within the state, I attach:

  • A copy of my registration letter for self employed taxation
  • A copy of both of my business name registration documents for CRO
    • [ Business Name ]
  • A copy of a few of my commission invoices for various reseller services
  • A selection of invoice copies to clients for my business activities.
  • Proof of domain name ownership
  • Website Printouts
  • Bank statements
  • ……

 

Should any further proof of self employment be required then I would be more than happy to provide this. I will provide my further bank statements as soon as possible (note that my Irish business bank account has only recently opened). As well as further invoices if they are required.

 

As evidence of residing within the state, I attach a copy of our PPSN letters, and copies of correspondence, and a copy of our tenancy agreement. We are awaiting our PRTB registration letter.

 

As proof of identity, we attach the passport of my spouse ([ Non EU Name ]) and myself the EU Citizen ([ EU NAME ]).

 

As the business is still in the early stages, I attach a print out of our joint account from the Bank of Ireland. I have also attached a copy of a letter relating to my recently opened Business Bank Account with the Bank of Ireland.

 

Whilst not a legal requirement, I attach a number of bank statements showing that I have sufficient funds to maintain my family, You will see funds of Sterling GBP in the following accounts in the UK:
…..
As well as funds of €xxxx.xx Euro in our joint bank account in Ireland.

 

My spouse ([ NON EU NAME ]) and myself ([EU NAME ]) have children together ([NAMES]) of whom we attach a copy of their Birth Certificates.

 

We will submit further documents in due course in relation to my income / self employment. I would appreciate the return of our documents speedily though, so as to exercise my treaty rights across the EU.

 

Yours Sincerely,

 

[ EU SIGN ]

[ EU NAME]

 

Sample letter of application for an EHIC

I previously posted regarding applying for an EHIC.  To do so not only increases your centre of life requirement, but is also a sensible move if your non-eu family member does not hold an EHIC issued by another member state (IE: The UK).

[ EU Citizen Name ]

[ Home Address ]

DATE: xx/xx/xxxx

[ Address of Local Health Office ]

Dear Sir(s)

APPLICATION FOR AN EHIC

Please find attached my application form for an European Health Insurance Card issued by the Irish Health Services Executive.  I am applying for myself [

EU NAME ] as a British Citizen and my non-EEA Family Member [ Non-EEA Name ].

I am [ an employed / a self-employed ] individual within Ireland.

I am aware that I must plan to be resident within Ireland for at least twelve months before I can apply for an Irish EHIC.  I attach a number of documents to support this fact.

Along with this application, you will find copies of the following documents:

[ *** DELETE AS APPROPRIATE / ADD EXTRA RELEVANT ITEMS]

Proof of Residence:

*Letter from my landlord

*Letter from PRTB

*Tenancy agreement [ highlight if it exceeds twelve months ]

 

Proof of employment [ Letter, contract of employment ] *Tax Registration Certificate

*Business name registration certificates

*PPSN Letters

*Bank account statements

*Business bank account statements and letters

 

Your’s

[ Signed ]

[ EU Citizen Name]

 

You can find addresses to Local Health Offices here: Local Health Office Addresses

Loyalty Card Programmes in Ireland

Just like in the UK, there are many savings programmes, clubcard schemes and other ways to collect and save money.  Obviously, if moving house, you may be able to change your address over (so try this first).  Alternatively, you may wish to register for a new account in your chosen country.

In Ireland I have came across a number of loyalty card programmes.  To which I’ll list some of them below:

Applying for an EEA Family Permit

Once you are ready to return to the UK, you would probally want to apply for an EEA Family Permit.  This application is a simple process, although the form itself asks for a lot of irrelevant information.

Before completing the application, make sure you can print out your application immediately, and if not immediately, make sure you have a PDF Document Writer (or equiv) so as you can print TWO COPIES of the form.

When you are ready to apply for your EEA Family Permit, head on over to the Visa4UK website (http://visa4uk.fco.gov.uk).

  1. At the time of writing this post, the FCO have launched a new Visa Application system (which appears to be “faulty” and is deleting your appointment – hence print it immediately).
  2. You will need an account, so click on “Register an Account”.
  3. Complete the form (the Applicant is the NON EU) and then agree to the terms, and click on “Register”.
  4. You’ll recieve an email to confirm your email address – So pop off to Yahoo, Hotmail, Gmail ETC to confirm your email address.
  5. Once confirmed, you should be able to login to your account. – Enter your email address and password.
  6. Once signed in, click on “Apply for Myself” on the top of the screen.
  7. The next page gives you warnings about use of false documents ETC.  Make sure you read and understand this information – then click on Continue.
  8. On the next page, you complete the details of the applicant (the Non-EU).
  9. The type of visa that you are applying for is on the following category:
    1. “Reason for Visit: Other”
    2. “Visa Type: EEA/Swiss Family Member”
    3. “Visa Sub Type: Family Member of an EEA National”
  10. Click on “Create Application”.
  11. You will then be able to complete the application form…

Obviously, you will need to complete the application with details relevant to your own situation, so only yourselves can answer the form.  A lot of the information is not required, but there is little you can do about completing it. (Otherwise you cannot submit the application online).

The only information you legally need to provide is:

  • Proof that you have worked as an employed or self employed person
  • Proof that you have resided together in the EEA state in which you work
  • Proof of ID (Passports)
  • and Proof of Relationship (Marriage Certificate)

Once you have completed the application form, you can submit it (note: it takes a while to complete.

You can then book an appointment on the system.  It is important that your book the appointment and print off the confirmation letter immediately – Make sure you print two copies – One for them, and one for yourself.

Payment is not required for an EEA Family Permit – as per the directive.  However, they charge a fee for a courier service of your documents back to yourselves.  We chose to collect our documents.  This meant that there was no payment required for the visa.

Heres the kicker though: You can only collect your document between 9:00am and 9:30am (which to me, screams a breach of the directive – as this is not giving EVERY OPPORTUNITY POSSIBLE to obtain the visa [Article 5])

 

What Documents Do You Supply

Below is just a sample of possible documents. Obviously, your own documents might well be different.

Proof that you have worked in a member state

Employed Persons

  • Work Contracts
  • Pay Slips
  • Letters from Employers
  • any other work related documents (IE: P45’s if change of job ETC)

Self Employed Persons

  • Tax Registration Letter
  • Business name registration certificate
  • Copy of business website etc
  • Copy of invoices issued to customers
  • Copy of reciepts for products purchased (costs)
  • Copy of other business accounting….
  • Business bank statements
  • Google Listings (Google Places, Google Plus)
  • Facebook Listings ETC
  • Copy of advertisements (IE: Paper, local church, shops, flyers ETC)

Proof of ID

You must supply the passport of the non-EU national. You should also be prepared to present the EU nationals passport – but at the very least supply a copy!

Proof of Residing together

  • Letter from Landlord
  • Tenancy Agreements
  • Letter from PRTB if applicable (IE: it is not required for a lodger to be registered with the PRTB if the landlord lives in the same household.)
  • Bank statements
  • Any other letters which have name and address on (IE: Driving License)

Proof of Relationship

  • This is usually a marriage certificate
  • Birth Certificates of any kids if you have any together

Other documents…

  • A letter from the EU national confirming that you will travel to the UK together.  This letter should outine the main points that you have worked, and lived together in whichever member state you have resided in.  It should also outline that you are applying under the case of Surinder Singh.
  • Residence Cards / Permits from the host member state
  • PPS Cards
  • EHIC Cards issued by member state
  • Letters confirming that you are registered at the local doctors
  • Letters from the kid’s schools / preschools / child minders

 

CREATE THREE BUNDLES: AND KEEP COPIES OF EVERYTHING!

It is important to make three bundles of your documents. These bundles are as follows:

  1. Original Documents [ Take to embassy – they should retain marriage certificate and non-EU passport ]
  2. Copy of Documents [ Take to embassy – they keep, but verify against originals (so keep the bundles in order) ]
  3. Copy of Documents [ You keep this copy, incase they loose anything / retain both sets you take to the embassy ]

How Long Does My Application Take To Process?

Well… This varies on your application. You can check on the UKBA Visa Processing times in Dublin, Ireland.

Which Mobile Network Should I Use in Ireland?

samsung galaxy ace mobile phone wifi routerIreland has a number of Mobile Telephone Providers: Three, o2, Meteor, Vodafone, Tesco (using the o2 network like in the UK).

I have found that Three offer the best deal for mobile usage.

It has two free offer plans on its PAYG sim cards:

  • Topup €10: Get 200MB free internet, 50 free texts, 50 minutes, and free 3 to 3 calling
  • Topup €20: Get a score and a half.

Included in the €20 deal you get the following:

  • Unlimited Internet
  • Unlimited Texts
  • Free ‘Unlimited’ Any Network Weekend Minutes
  • Free 3000 Three to Three calls
  • Free 3000 Skype Minutes (not sure how this works though, since you get free unlimited data).

You also KEEP THE €20 credit to use for calling. Let me outline how cost effective this deal is: In the UK I was paying £25/month to Sky for my Telephone and Internet (ADSL).  This means that my Internet bill in Ireland is cheaper, and we even get to use it as a mobile surfing.

You get Unlimited Internet (we use it for everything, using well over 30GB of transfer a month) via a WiFi hotspot on a Samsung Galaxy Ace mobile phone (available in many mobiles – even iPhones)

  • YouTube
  • BBC iPlayer
  • Skype
  • Facebook
  • Twitter
  • Googling and general surfing. It sorts us out no problem.

I use two: One for my mobile (and business line) phone, and one for the internet at home (because we need to leave one on the Window Ledge upstairs to get a decent signal).  The Samsung Galaxy Ace mobile then makes a perfect WiFi router.  We sometimes have to restart the mobile (with all devices they go haywire occassionally), but it works wonders – even with six or seven devices connected to it.

So, i’m sure your going to ask: thats OK, but what are the connection speeds like?  Here’s a quick speedtest for you to look over.

Thee Mobile Internet Speed Test Download and Upload Connection Speeds
Thee Mobile Internet Speed Test Download and Upload Connection Speeds

Shockingly (whilst not quite up to fibre speeds) this is still better than I was getting in Tiddington via Sky ADSL.  The connection speeds are actually better still in Dublin City.

To add onto this fantastic offer.  Three also offer roaming in the UK and Ireland for its customers. [See: Three Like Home] – I do get a text message every time we drive up to Newry telling us about roaming charges.  I therefore remove my Sim Card and don’t use it (I don’t want to risk my credit).

Risking my credit also brings me onto my next point: Make sure you topup on time.  I mixed my dates up.  I thought my topup date was 27th December and it was actually 22nd.  I used over €20 of credit in less than 30 minutes!  It’s worth noting that your 3000 minutes of three to three calls also expires 7 days after your internet bundle.  So go by the topup date, and remember to topup the €20 the day before its due!

You can also get Sim Cards for PAYG mobiles from Tesco for €0.99 (and sometimes they offer a voucher for a FREE Sim – with no topup) should you just need a contact number.

Tap Water In Ireland – Quality, Price, Safe to Drink?

Picture of a Running Tap in Ireland for Water Quality, Price and SafetyThere are a few points about the quality of the tap water in Ireland. The first thing I’ll say is that it is somewhat of an aquired taste.

How Much is the Water Bill in Ireland?

Unlike the UK, there is presently no charge for the supply of water in Ireland. This will soon change (Quater 1 of 2015).

The Irish Water Board (http://water.ie/) began it’s water meter installation programme in August 2015. It is expected that the majority of households will have a water meter installed by 2016.

For more information about water bills in Ireland please visit: Irish Water Billing Information.

Is the water in Ireland safe to drink?

The water in Ireland is safe to drink. Although, it doesn’t taste all too pleasant when compared to other water supplies.

What about Irelands Water Quality?

Ireland Water Kettle Needs DescalingThis is the big kick for the water in Ireland. The water is pretty much full of a lot chlorine, limescale and other little irritants that affect the taste and quality of the water.

Infact, take a look at the state of this kettle after just a couple of weeks… So worthwhile bringing some Citric Acid to keep that kettle nice and clean (which will help you enjoy a nice fresh cuppa coffee and tea).

Water Filters

We purchased a Brita Water Filter jug (about €30) which gets rid of / filters out most of the “Sandy Residue” from the water. You can immediately taste the difference in the water, and is well worth the investment. The jug would of been far cheaper in the UK, but needs must.  Using the Brita Water filter jug also helps reduce the amount of limescale in the kettle (the kettle is nowhere near as bad as above since we’ve started filtering the water kettle) – although laziness does lead to just boiling water straight from the tap (and believe me: you can taste the difference in your tea/coffee).

Brita Water Filter cartiridges are about €7.50 each in Tesco Ireland, but you can buy them in the UK for cheaper (Shopping Trip to Newry guys?), and obviously buying in “Bulk” makes them cheaper (we bought 3 for €15 in Tesco, so essentially one free).

Different areas have different water quality, just like in the UK. The water in Dublin was no where near as bad as in Co. Meath – But we are right by the sea, so this might have some effect (who knows).

You can also get alternative water filters, but the replacement water filter cartridges do not really get any cheaper with own brand jugs ETC, and personally I find Brita a better water filter.